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Copyright is a big issue in our line of work — one that is treated in many ways. Sometimes this treatment is ethical, sometimes not so much, on occasions disregarded, in some instances forgotten, and yet, it is an issue that should be present at all times.

Copyright is a form of protection provided by the laws of the United States (title 17, U.S. Code) to the authors of “original works of authorship,” including literary, dramatic, musical, artistic, and certain other intellectual works, available to both published and unpublished works. Section 106 of the 1976 Copyright Act generally gives the owner of copyright the exclusive right to do and to authorize others to do the following:

a) To reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords.
To prepare derivative works based upon the work.
b) To distribute copies or phonorecords of the work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending.
c) To perform the work publicly, in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and motion pictures and other audiovisual works.
d) To display the copyrighted work publicly, in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and pictorial, graphic, or sculptural works, including the individual images of a motion picture or other audiovisual work.
e) In the case of sound recordings, to perform the work publicly by means of a digital audio transmission.

A few questions:

Are you conscious of copyright issues as you develop your concepts?

Do you take the time to talk with your client, and explain when an image can be used, and when it can’t? and for how long?

Will you say half truths, bend the rules, or look the other way in order to obtain better prices for usage of photography or illustrations?

Once the project is done, do you follow up with your client and the usage of the items?

Are you annoyed, frazzled, accepting, happy to oblige, or indifferent to copyright laws?

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PUBLISHED ON Mar.04.2004 BY bryony
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marian’s comment is:

I'm pretty copyright fussy, and I always explain the issues to my client (though it's amazing how often they willfully don't hear me, particularly in respect to the licensing of photography/illustration). If they supply me with imagery I ask where it came from and make sure they have the right to use it. If I borrow imagery for comps I explain how much it will cost to buy the rights to that work. I never ever try to stiff, undercut or cheat the people I license work from -- if the client can't afford them I look for other options.

Once the project is done, do you follow up with your client and the usage of the items?

This is where it falls down. After the licensing for an image for e.g. a year is up, it's very unlikely I would remember to check up on it. Often I let the photographer handle, negotiate and follow up on their own agreements with the client. Then if there's a dispute I don't have to be involved.

I find copyright laws to be mostly confusing. Although I think I know that I may not e.g. paint an illustration from a photograph by a photographer without their consent, I don't know if there is some point at which my "interpretation" strays from the original to such an extent that they no longer need to be involved. (For my own illustration I keep everything--all working sketches, just in case.)

I also don't know if, when we post logos and designs here on Speak Up which we are using as examples but which we did not ourselves design if we are breaking copyright laws. I have a fearful suspicion that we are -- in which case yes, I guess I'm fudging.

On Mar.04.2004 at 12:29 PM
Krystal Hosmer’s comment is:

Yes, I worry about copyright. Yes, my clients have bent the rules or asked me to do so. Yes, I feel guility about it and try to talk them out of it or not even give them the option when I can.

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Also in this vein... does anyone know the law on this...

I scan a piece of fabric and use it as part of a printed invitation. The fabric is copyrighted by the manufacturer... so do I need to ask for permission to use it in this way? I mean I make quilts all the time and don't have to ask anyone for permission, even if I sell the finished work. Is fabric, which is intended solely as a raw material for other creations, at all like photographic images for this purpose?

On Mar.04.2004 at 12:33 PM
Armin’s comment is:

> I also don't know if, when we post logos and designs here on Speak Up which we are using as examples but which we did not ourselves design if we are breaking copyright laws.

Marian, I doubt that we are infringing on any laws. We are not using the logos for commercial purposes or anything. It's like when they show the Enron logo on the news, I don't think they have to pay royalties for the use. And this is for educational purposes*.

On the copyright issues, I'm constantly concerned that a logo I do will look like somebody else's logo. That kind of freaks me out a little. I know that if you are within very separate industries the logo and name can be similar without any infringements taking place, but there is never a lack of Nikes, Coca-Colas and MickeyDs that copyright their stuff all across the board.

* This does not constitute an attorney-client relationship. To obtain legal assistance for your particular situation, you should contact a real attorney

On Mar.04.2004 at 12:47 PM
Armin’s comment is:

Krystal, that is a question I have had many times in regards to other stuff like wrapping paper or even scanning… I dunno, French Paper and using it as a background.

On Mar.04.2004 at 01:07 PM
ps’s comment is:

On the copyright issues, I'm constantly concerned that a logo I do will look like somebody else's logo. That kind of freaks me out a little.

i put into my proposals/agreements that we produce original work for the particular client, but that it is up to the client to conduct copyright & trademark searches so that their interests are protected. We have some attorneys that we can refer for such services. i don't think anyone can guarantee anymore that a design that they have come up with has not been tried somewhere else or has elements that have been used elsewhere.

On Mar.04.2004 at 01:15 PM
marian’s comment is:

Oh yeah, education -- I forgot about that. Thanks, Armin.

re the logos -- have I yet publicly wished for a logo database that could be searched iconographically (i.e. birds, circles, stripes, mangoes, trees etc.)? I, too, worry about this when designing logos.

That fabric question is an excellent one.

On Mar.04.2004 at 02:09 PM
Joe VDB’s comment is:

The desgins on fabric are almost certainly copyrighted by their creator, who may be a freelance surface designer who licenses the design to a manufacturer. Depending on the rights reserved, the same person may also license the design (I hate that word!) to another manufacturer for another use, such as greeting cards or wallpaper or whatnot.

Ease of copying or using the design on a completely other substrate doesn't make it any more acceptable. Thanks to everyone for respecting copyright whenever you can.

On Mar.04.2004 at 02:39 PM
Darrel’s comment is:

Are you annoyed, frazzled, accepting, happy to oblige, or indifferent to copyright laws?

Yes. It's tiring.

Ease of copying or using the design on a completely other substrate doesn't make it any more acceptable. Thanks to everyone for respecting copyright whenever you can.

Of course, if you're using it for a personal invite, you may be infringing, but you're certainly not damaging the copyright holder in any way.

Copyright law was designed to protect both the holder, and the general public. Letting it sway too much in one direction or the other causes all sorts of problems. Of course, it's really tricky to keep the protections even and balanced.

On Mar.04.2004 at 03:32 PM
Greg’s comment is:

re the logos -- have I yet publicly wished for a logo database that could be searched iconographically (i.e. birds, circles, stripes, mangoes, trees etc.)? I, too, worry about this when designing logos.

Logo Lounge is a great resource by Bill Gardner, also a couple books by the same name.

On Mar.04.2004 at 03:52 PM
Armin’s comment is:

Has anybody here (or a client of anybody here) ever been approached with a cease and desist letter for something you designed?

On Mar.04.2004 at 03:57 PM
Mark T’s comment is:

I also don't know if, when we post logos and designs here on Speak Up which we are using as examples but which we did not ourselves design if we are breaking copyright laws.

This type of usage, for purposes of criticism/education, falls under what is called "fair use". Keep in mind though, that fair use is not unlimited. For example, if I posted a digital copy of a movie online, along with a critique, I would expect a call from a studio lawyer.

There is also a movement afoot at http://creativecommons.org to popularize alternative forms of copyright that are much less restrictive. It's really a wonderful program that deserves a look from anyone creating original content.

On Mar.04.2004 at 04:50 PM
Armin’s comment is:

This is the first time I spend any serious time on the creative commons web site, I had heard about it before and have seen it on many web sites. I know its goal is different from the usual copyright and is more about sharing than protecting, but could this become widespread enough that it would be a more viable solution for copyrighting creative work?

The premise seems to work, but it seems like if it came down to a court battle (maybe I'm exagerating here) I don't think a little Flash animation will cut it.

On Mar.05.2004 at 08:46 AM
Darrel’s comment is:

but it seems like if it came down to a court battle

The *only* thing that matters in a court battle over IP law these days is how big your lawyer's salary is.

;o)

On Mar.05.2004 at 12:16 PM