Hillman Curtis
July 16, 2003
by Armin Vit
Speak Up: Your stumbling
upon web design after your rock n roll years is very well documented
by now. It seems like you were in the right place at the right time, do you ever
consider what would have happened or where you would be if you hadnÕt started
your practice around the internet boom?
Hillman Curtis: Not really...
when I look back at it, my path seems fortuitous, but equally arduous. I was working
at a new age greeting card warehouse filling orders and getting clobbered at a
downtown boxing gym before I started with design and computers...this is back
in 1993. Id just been dropped by my record label and was too old to start
a new band so I signed up for a Photoshop class, then a Director class...those
classes led to a series of internships and freelance jobs, which in turn led to
a job at Macromedia. Id just been promoted to Art Director there when they
acquired Flash. When I left to start hillmancurtis it was 1998, right as the boom
was picking up speed. My timing was very good, but I put in a hell of a lot of
work getting there.
SU: One of the reasons your
work became so admired was because you could tell the most interesting stories
with the least amount of bandwidth today bandwidth is king, 10k files are
not frowned upon anymore how have you embraced technology? Or do you still
prefer the humble ways?
HC: Thats a good question.
Id like to think that its the stories and not the download time that
resonate in my work. But I know they are tied together and that its part
of the deal when working in the online medium. Broadband is still a limited environment
and I think there is still the challenge/opportunity to present clear communication
within those limitations. I dont think I align big files with freedom, innovation
or creative expression... I dont think I ever will. I always want to present
the fastest most streamlined and compelling experience.
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When I left to start hillmancurtis it was 1998, right as the boom
was picking up speed. My timing was very good, but I put in a hell of a lot of
work getting there.
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SU: This next question might
sound a bit harsh, but trust me, its not meant as an insult or anything
of the sort. I already mentioned your ability to make the most of the end users
technical situations (AOL/56k Modems/Pentium 1 beige boxes) and the limitations
of Flash and web in general. Do you think those limitations could just be an excuse
to not push yourself and your team harder to do something more?
HC: Yes. All of my personal philosophies
constantly threaten to become prison bars. My adherence to grids, to minimalism,
to reductionism, to the compulsion towards over-justification... even trying to
work within the limitations of the web , which I think is the right thing to do,
can be dangerous if I become too rigid about it. Its definitely my biggest
challenge at the moment. Im actually trying to break from much of this and
have taken most of the summer off from client work to try to find new ways to
approach my work.
SU:
Print design has its share of gratuitous eye candy, but Web design is governed by it (besides all the wonderful content we can find) with an added lack of design fundamentals Š how have you been able to instill some congruence to the field?
HC: Definitely with my books,
in which I try to share my respect for the power of good design... and hopefully
with my work.
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SU:
Changing gears a little bit, where is New Media Design right now and where is it headed? Are we done with it or is it just getting started? Where do you fall in the mix of things?
HC: I honestly have no answer
for this one... Im hoping I have one by the end of the summer.
SU: LetÕs talk a little about
your buzz sentences
HC: Making the Invisible
Visible
This is all about theme... and maybe a better way of saying this would be; making
that universal feeling felt... or speak with the heart and the heart hears. Its
saying something with color, layout, motion, rhythm, images and sequence in a
way that speaks louder than text based messaging. Its something underneath
the surface messaging of any design... like the 1967 Milton Glaser poster of Bob
Dylan... on the surface is a promotion/ad for Bob Dylan, but the work suggests
so much more in its wild color and beautiful curves; freedom, expression,
experimentation and growth. Its almost like some crazy blooming flower...
and thus was a wonderful reflection or response to, even perhaps an influence
on, the socio-political time.
Eat the Audience
This is pretty simple. I got it from a story my mother-in law told me about an
ESL (English as a Second Language) class she taught. She had asked her students
to each prepare a short lecture to present to the class. One of her Japanese students
told her that in order to complete the assignment he first had to eat the
audience. That was as close as he could get with his limited English...what
he meant was that he had to consider his audience, respect and include them in
his concept, prior to writing the piece. Its a great metaphor for new media
design.
Turn on, Tune in, Give Back
This was one the shop came up with way back. In the middle of the boom. We were
responding to the singular obsession with wealth... the blind chasing of stock
options and the frantic consumption... the days of Herman Miller chairs. We decided
to give a percentage of our earnings to charity and everyone in the studio got
to pick one. It also had to do with the sharing of inspiration. Of trying not
to hide your sources.
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I get a thrill out
of pointing to someones work and saying This moved me so much that
I did this...
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SU: One of the questions I
hate the most is Who are your influences? and I will not ask this
Š if anybody cares to now who yours are, they can buy the
MTIV book. What I would
like to ask is why are you so eager to talk about your inspirations? Its
rare to see brand-name designers acknowledge their inspirations but you do so
very Š pardon the redundancy Š inspirationally yourself.
HC: I love and celebrate my work
and so I love and celebrate the work that influences me. There is nothing better
than turning someone on to Tibor Kalman or Pablo Ferro, or Bradley Gosh, or Peter
Saville, or Hi-Res, Saul Bass, Deborah Ross, or The Bureau, the music videos of
Jonathan Glazer, the illustrator Jasper Goodall and so on. I get a thrill out
of pointing to someones work and saying This moved me so much that
I did this...
SU: Thanks Hillman.
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